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  • Cathay to cut available award seats?

    Saw this pop up on FT just now-- no idea the veracity of it, but sure to garner some attention!

    http://www.scmp.com/business/compani...ee-flights-own

    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24792088-post2552.html

  • #2
    Bad news for AAdv members

    I now put much more weight into this article. The AAdv miles for CX F tix game will most definitely be 'a changin'.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by JonNYC View Post
      I now put much more weight into this article. The AAdv miles for CX F tix game will most definitely be 'a changin'.
      Why? Anything in particular that strikes you as certain?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by theforwardcabin View Post
        Why? Anything in particular that strikes you as certain?

        The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members
        It's definitely going to be happening, the information in the article is correct.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JonNYC View Post
          It's definitely going to be happening, the information in the article is correct.
          Thanks JonNYC for the heads up. This also presumably affects AS flyers as well, who have also had difficulty in finding CX availability. Here are my thoughts on the matter, from my ASFlyer blog:

          http://asflyer.blogspot.com/2015/05/...-seats-to.html

          Cathay cites the fact that it's currently easier and cheaper for members of partner frequent flyer programs, notably from American Airlines, to earn the miles required to redeem for awards, thereby putting Cathay's own Marco Polo Club (MPC) and AsiaMiles members at a disadvantage.

          The thinking behind the move seems to be limiting "external" redemptions on flights that could be filled with revenue passengers.

          There are some problems with this logic:
          • There's no doubt that Cathay has been busy, but unless they can fill up 100% of their seats 100% of the time, then they will have empty seats that could have been used to create the loyalty that frequent flyer schemes are designed for (including their own program);
          • Part of the point of a global airline alliance is to broaden the network and reach of a single airline, and MPC members can earn points, travel with benefits, and redeem partner awards on those partner airlines;
          • Cathay doesn't provide an indication that their partner airlines would respond in kind, and restrict award redemptions to Cathay frequent flyers, which would devalue MPC/AsiaMiles membership, which I'm sure is the opposite intended effect.
          • While this move would appease Cathay's loyal flyers on their own planes, there are many more places that Cathay does NOT fly to, and those flyers could very well lose access if airline partners like Alaska and American decide to restrict award availability to MPC/AsiaMiles redemptions.


          And of course, this doesn't bode will for those partner airline flyers who have been saving up their points and miles to redeem on Cathay.

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          • #6
            From a blog I ran across this morning:

            According to the experts and me, we’re only a few months away from American Airlines announcing an increase in the number of miles needed to book an award on Cathay Pacific. By December 9, 2015, we expect booking Cathay Pacific Business Class awards (Asia 2) to rise more than 10,000 miles to 65,000 miles one way and First Class awards to rise more than 13,000 miles to 81,000 miles one way.
            http://www.milevalue.com/cathay-paci...irlines-miles/

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tom911 View Post
              From a blog I ran across this morning:


              http://www.milevalue.com/cathay-paci...irlines-miles/
              Oh the horror! I'd say that would be a best-case scenario (assuming no actual change in availability). It's nothing compared to the change in UA's charts for partner premium cabin redemptions, IIRC.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ijgordon View Post
                Oh the horror! I'd say that would be a best-case scenario (assuming no actual change in availability). It's nothing compared to the change in UA's charts for partner premium cabin redemptions, IIRC.
                Oh my god, yeah-- if that were the bulk of the coming change it would be cause for celebration in the streets, as far as I'm concerned.

                But, unfortunately, that's not at all all that we're faced with.

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                • #9
                  Some SPECULATION (on my part) on maybe some pattern changes? Based on observations on FT and some quick checking.

                  http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25613436-post3585.html

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